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Sibling Rivalry: The Fight Continues Between Isaac and Ishmael

You don’t see the roots of this conflict between Israel and Hamas being told on the news, but if you look at God’s news (the Holy Bible) this was reported centuries ago. It all begins with Abraham and his two wives who each had a son. Ishmael (who was the son of a slave woman) and Isaac (who was the son Sarah and the son of promise). The conflict really begins with the two women. Hagar the Egyptian and Sarah the original wife of Abraham. When Hagar conceived she began to despise Sarah and that continues with each of their sons.

So Hagar and Ishmael were cast out. This really ticked them off. Ishmael turned his back on the God of his father Abraham because he couldn’t be number 1 and his descendants decided to adapt a different god, Allah. The god of the Islam. No, they are not the same.

Have you ever wondered, WHO IS ALLAH ? WHAT IS ISLAM ? WHO IS MUHAMMAD ? CHECK THIS OUT

So it escalated from the rivalry between brothers to the rivalry between God and Satan (who wants to replace God with himself). This battle is playing out all over the world today, not just in Israel. It will come to our own streets like it has to the streets of Jerusalem if the followers of Allah have their way.

Here are links if you want to listen to the rest of what John Hagge has to say. Although his sermon was from a few years ago it is even more relevent today, in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEhXsG2Vmi0           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j797BV7CYh0

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10 comments on “Sibling Rivalry: The Fight Continues Between Isaac and Ishmael

  1. Reblogged this on meanlittleboy2 and commented:
    DONT WE ALL?

  2. Great Job Harley… Posted it on TheseChristiantimes.com You have has some great post lately. Still pushing for the podcast. It will come

  3. […] So Hagar and Ishmael were cast out. This really ticked them off. Ishmael turned his back on the God of his father Abraham because he couldn’t be number 1 and his descendants decided to adapt a different god, Allah. The god of the Islam. No, they are not the same READ MORE WITH VIDEOS: https://theharleyfactor.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/sibling-rivalry-the-fight-continues-between-isaac-an… […]

  4. You said it in a big nut shell. I hope others who follow will read your comment to gain even more understanding.

    • Well I was just trying to back you up with Scripture and how this is really a spiritual battle as you said. And how it right there in our Old Testament! Just dust off your bible, people, crack it open and start reading it! You will be very educated and begin to understand what is happening all around us and you will tremble in your heart as you wonder if this is the time or as one of my other posters said that this happened in 70AD with the Romans. Perhaps it did but as I read it now, it makes my heart tremble and I know its coming here because our president it a part of them because he has aligned the U.S. with the Muslim Brotherhood! He also has done all he can to make us a socialist country instead of a republic that we’ve been up until he took office and started using his “phone and his pen”… and he forgot that We, the People, also have phones and pens and its time WE use them! Contact your representatives and tell them what you want to see take place. Ask them what they are doing about what is going on. Where do they stand? Hold them accountable to you as you are their constituent and they represent YOU.

      Anyway, Harley, I was just having your back. I hope it wasn’t too much!

      • It wasn’t too much at all Rhonda, I appriciate the back up. You are right, we do need to start using our pens and phones and our election booths. We need to vote out muslim terrorist sympathizers and vote in people who want to restore our country to what it was meant to be.
        God bless

      • Thank you, Harley! I don’t ever want to hijack a post but to help substantiate it to support you. And every time I hear POTUS say “I have a pen and a phone.” I think, is he really that stupid to think that we don’t or is the that confident that we won’t use ours. I think its the latter and I pray we show him he is WRONG!

        God bless!

  5. Hagar and Ishmael
    16 Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. And she had an Egyptian maidservant whose name was Hagar. 2 So Sarai said to Abram, “See now, the Lord has restrained me from bearing children. Please, go in to my maid; perhaps I shall obtain children by her.” And Abram heeded the voice of Sarai. 3 Then Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar her maid, the Egyptian, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan. 4 So he went in to Hagar, and she conceived. And when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress became despised in her eyes.

    5 Then Sarai said to Abram, “My wrong be upon you! I gave my maid into your embrace; and when she saw that she had conceived, I became despised in her eyes. The Lord judge between you and me.”

    6 So Abram said to Sarai, “Indeed your maid is in your hand; do to her as you please.” And when Sarai dealt harshly with her, she fled from her presence.

    7 Now the Angel of the Lord found her by a spring of water in the wilderness, by the spring on the way to Shur. 8 And He said, “Hagar, Sarai’s maid, where have you come from, and where are you going?”

    She said, “I am fleeing from the presence of my mistress Sarai.”

    9 The Angel of the Lord said to her, “Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hand.” 10 Then the Angel of the Lord said to her, “I will multiply your descendants exceedingly, so that they shall not be counted for multitude.” 11 And the Angel of the Lord said to her:

    “Behold, you are with child,
    And you shall bear a son.
    You shall call his name Ishmael,
    Because the Lord has heard your affliction.
    12 He shall be a wild man;
    His hand shall be against every man,
    And every man’s hand against him.
    And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.”
    13 Then she called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, You-Are-the-God-Who-Sees; for she said, “Have I also here seen Him who sees me?” 14 Therefore the well was called Beer Lahai Roi;[a] observe, it is between Kadesh and Bered.

    15 So Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram named his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael. 16 Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abram.
    (Note the name of Abram and Sarai)

    The Sign of the Covenant
    17 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless. 2 And I will make My covenant between Me and you, and will multiply you exceedingly.” 3 Then Abram fell on his face, and God talked with him, saying: 4 “As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations. 5 No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many nations. 6 I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you. 7 And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. 8 Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”

    9 And God said to Abraham: “As for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations. 10 This is My covenant which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: Every male child among you shall be circumcised; 11 and you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between Me and you. 12 He who is eight days old among you shall be circumcised, every male child in your generations, he who is born in your house or bought with money from any foreigner who is not your descendant. 13 He who is born in your house and he who is bought with your money must be circumcised, and My covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. 14 And the uncircumcised male child, who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.”

    15 Then God said to Abraham, “As for Sarai your wife, you shall not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall be her name. 16 And I will bless her and also give you a son by her; then I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall be from her.”

    17 Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed, and said in his heart, “Shall a child be born to a man who is one hundred years old? And shall Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear a child?” 18 And Abraham said to God, “Oh, that Ishmael might live before You!”

    19 Then God said: “No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you. Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall beget twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation. 21 But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this set time next year.” 22 Then He finished talking with him, and God went up from Abraham.

    21 And the Lord visited Sarah as He had said, and the Lord did for Sarah as He had spoken. 2 For Sarah conceived and bore Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him. 3 And Abraham called the name of his son who was born to him—whom Sarah bore to him—Isaac. 4 Then Abraham circumcised his son Isaac when he was eight days old, as God had commanded him. 5 Now Abraham was one hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him. 6 And Sarah said, “God has made me laugh, and all who hear will laugh with me.” 7 She also said, “Who would have said to Abraham that Sarah would nurse children? For I have borne him a son in his old age.”

    Hagar and Ishmael Depart
    8 So the child grew and was weaned. And Abraham made a great feast on the same day that Isaac was weaned.

    9 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, whom she had borne to Abraham, scoffing. 10 Therefore she said to Abraham, “Cast out this bondwoman and her son; for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, namely with Isaac.” 11 And the matter was very displeasing in Abraham’s sight because of his son.

    12 But God said to Abraham, “Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called. 13 Yet I will also make a nation of the son of the bondwoman, because he is your seed.”

    14 So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water; and putting it on her shoulder, he gave it and the boy to Hagar, and sent her away. Then she departed and wandered in the Wilderness of Beersheba. 15 And the water in the skin was used up, and she placed the boy under one of the shrubs. 16 Then she went and sat down across from him at a distance of about a bowshot; for she said to herself, “Let me not see the death of the boy.” So she sat opposite him, and lifted her voice and wept.

    17 And God heard the voice of the lad. Then the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said to her, “What ails you, Hagar? Fear not, for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is. 18 Arise, lift up the lad and hold him with your hand, for I will make him a great nation.”

    19 Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water. And she went and filled the skin with water, and gave the lad a drink. 20 So God was with the lad; and he grew and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer. 21 He dwelt in the Wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.
    (All Scripture taken from the NKJV)

    This is the sibling rivalry that Harley is talking about. The true son of God who was given the land of Caanan and Ishmael who feels it was taken from him as he was firstborn. Both were taught the Word of the Lord from their father Abram/Abraham. This is why there are so many parts of the Q’uran that have the same scriptures as the Old Testament of our bible. Ishmael is the father of Islam, just as Harley is saying regarding the sibling rivalry. But the promise of God will reign regardless of how long the war goes on.

    Has anyone ever wondered why there is so many people after the portion of land in the desert the size of New Jersey? It’s a spiritual fight and it will go on until Christ’s return.

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